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Stuff on 3840

Mar 4th, 04:54

W7WHY

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I have wondered why in just about every QST issue, there are 1 or 2 'FCC News' stories where hams get busted and big fines for illegal operation on the ham bands.

Usually it is someone who is bothering some repeaters or some operation like that.

What I don't understand is - here in Oregon - if you listen on 3840 at night you hear every cuss word imaginable. They drop the 'F' bomb like it is nothing.

I am no prude, but good grief, you mean to tell me the FCC can't do anything about that???

I just don't understand.

Seems like the FCC spends a lot of time monitoring repeaters and kinda forgot about the rest of the bands. 73
Tom W7WHY

Mar 4th, 16:28

WB1GCM

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Tom,

Without going into details, I can that the activity on that frequency has been noted. Those in position that can do something about it have been informed.

Bob Allison
ARRL Test Engineer

Mar 25th, 17:07

KE4KO

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14.313 has been known to be a disgrace to ham radio for years also. i do not understand why anyone wants to carry on like they do.
Apr 24th, 00:43

KD7KCP

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From arrl test engineer
"Those in position that can do something about it have been informed."
This means nothing, same crap from the arrl and nothing effective gets done.
Apr 24th, 17:03

WB1GCM

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KD7KCP,

I am sorry you are so unhappy. I gave a straight and honest answer. I am an honest man and would never deceive anyone.

The ARRL has no enforcement powers. All we can do is suggest, advise and petition the FCC. If you are unhappy with the FCC, please write to them and file a complaint. If you do not get the response you want, then write to your US Senator.

BTW, disrespectful language is not allowed on our forums. Though we cannot control rude behavior on the air, we can control it here on our forums. Our administrator has the right to block your future posts on a permanent basis.

Bob Allison
WB1GCM
ARRL Test Engineer
Apr 24th, 22:33

KD7KCP

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Quote by WB1GCM
KD7KCP,

I am sorry you are so unhappy. I gave a straight and honest answer. I am an honest man and would never deceive anyone.

The ARRL has no enforcement powers. All we can do is suggest, advise and petition the FCC. If you are unhappy with the FCC, please write to them and file a complaint. If you do not get the response you want, then write to your US Senator.

BTW, disrespectful language is not allowed on our forums. Though we cannot control rude behavior on the air, we can control it here on our forums. Our administrator has the right to block your future posts on a permanent basis.

Bob Allison
WB1GCM
ARRL Test Engineer

Most of what I’m hearing is excuses as to why the arrl is ineffective and the fcc is dialect in its duties.
Too many of us have become the frog coming to a boil and except this fecal matter sandwich that the FCC licensed civil operators have to take a big bite out of.

Take a look at this gem.

"The visibility of the Commission’s enforcement program for the Amateur Service is wholly inadequate, resulting in a widespread, albeit inaccurate, public perception that there is no active enforcement in our service,” the League’s comments said. The ARRL said “deterrence based on visibility is a critical component of a successful compliance campaign.”

The arrl has taken on the responsibility as our advocates. This is one that they have lobbied for. The arrl during their pitch for renewal goes on and on about their good work looking out for us.

Take a look at the point their making. It plainly is this. The fcc should do a better job at looking better. This is a paramount point one of the three biggest points in the letter. Next to nothing, if anything about being derelict in their duties!

Now to flog a horse, that if not dead is at this point in mortal danger of expiring.

The arrl is promoting perceived performance as a remedy to dereliction of duty.

How can you defend the arrl when they advocate preserved performance as a fix for the FCCs dereliction of duties?

By the way I have no firsthand knowledge of, nor do I know any one that has firsthand knowledge of the FCC being anything other than derelict in their duties.
Translation; I have never seen the ARRL or the FCC do anything effective to stop the several year campaign of the same jammers doing the same thing from the same place for years upon years!

I’m I suppose to believe that with all those big brans at the ARRL this ineffectiveness is acceptable?

So your point is that the ARRL is useless when it comes to this problem?

Than why when I looked to report this chronic mutable year problem was I prompted by the FCC and the ARRL to contact the ARRL in this matter?
Apr 25th, 10:36

WB1GCM

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I don't think anyone at the ARRL believes the FCC is performing well with enforcement. As I said, all we can do is advise, suggest and petition. We are at the mercey of a government agency. The only way to get their attention is through congress. Our tax paying money, not your ARRL dues pays the FCC. Though we have no enforcement power, we do represent a significant number of Radio Amateurs. The ARRL is the voice of our members and that's all we got. Please read our news story:

http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-calls-for-timely-visible-fcc-amateur-radio-enforcement

I'm as tired of lids on the air as you are. I suggest you help out too and write a letter to your US Senator. If enough people write in support of us, we might get somwhere. The ARRL is its membership; your're a member. Please join the thousands of volunteers and contribute.

If you have any other complaints, you are welcome to write to your Division Director. I'm not a director, just one of the guys in the Lab who tries to help people with their technical questions. I'm good at that, but I'm not good at solving our member's personal bad feelings about what the ARRL should or shouldn't be doing. I have nothing else to add to this thread. I'm done here.

73,

WB1GCM

Apr 26th, 08:34

KD7KCP

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Quote by WB1GCM
I don't think anyone at the ARRL believes the FCC is performing well with enforcement. As I said, all we can do is advise, suggest and petition. We are at the mercey of a government agency. The only way to get their attention is through congress. Our tax paying money, not your ARRL dues pays the FCC. Though we have no enforcement power, we do represent a significant number of Radio Amateurs. The ARRL is the voice of our members and that's all we got. Please read our news story:

http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-calls-for-timely-visible-fcc-amateur-radio-enforcement

I'm as tired of lids on the air as you are. I suggest you help out too and write a letter to your US Senator. If enough people write in support of us, we might get somwhere. The ARRL is its membership; your're a member. Please join the thousands of volunteers and contribute.

If you have any other complaints, you are welcome to write to your Division Director. I'm not a director, just one of the guys in the Lab who tries to help people with their technical questions. I'm good at that, but I'm not good at solving our member's personal bad feelings about what the ARRL should or shouldn't be doing. I have nothing else to add to this thread. I'm done here.

73,

WB1GCM



First off, thank you for time, and I do truly and sincerely mean thank you.
I did not try to impugn your character and I should have cleared that up at first opportunity, I did not, I am sorry
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When you wrote “Without going into details, I can say that the activity on that frequency has been noted. Those in position that can do something about it have been informed”.
Well that’s something I have been hearing for years, not by you, but from the ARRL. And for years I can’t see for the life of me any action. By action I don’t mean a report in QST, I mean in the last several years I have not seen one jammer taken off the air.

Now on to something lighter, I recently bought I new hf rig. I studied all the material that your lab made available from your testing and it was a great help, thank you. Also the equipment review section in QST may be what I look forward the most in the mag. That and any article on homebrew.

Thank You Mr. Allison for your effort in this matter.

73

KD7KCP
Apr 27th, 14:54

WB1GCM

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Thank you.

You are my friend as you have your best interest in Ham Radio as I do.

If you would like to talk more about this, you are always very welcome to call me at the ARRL Labortatory. I am at your service.

Bob Allison
WB1GCM
860-594-0210
Jul 4th, 01:05

KM3F

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Late to the party but need some opinion.
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In contacting our Senators on matters of interference and behavior , I believe their staff and the Senator may not understand the gravity of what is being put forth in a complaint and needs help from some entity that has weight and access to them for consultation on serious matters.
It is difficult enough to get their attention on standard legislation and other matters without going technical on a regulated Hobby they know nothing about..
Is there any format or advice we need to have in pursuing these type of complaints if FCC field office action does not materialize.

Thanks.
Jul 8th, 21:12

WB1GCM

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As I said on April 24th, "Those in position that can do something about it have been informed."

http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-alleges-oregon-radio-amateur-interfered-with-others-aired-music-and-failed-to-identify

Bob Allison
WB1GCM
ARRL Test Engineer

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