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DXCC requirements unfair?

Jul 23rd 2013, 06:34

NS5B

Joined: Jul 3rd 2013, 02:45
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"...ARRL membership is required for DXCC applicants in the US, its possessions, and Puerto Rico. ARRL membership is NOT required for foreign applicants..."

This doesn't seem right to me. I think everyone should have to abide by the same rules regardless of where you call home. It should be made available to ALL amateur radio operators whether you are an ARRL member or not.

And the same should apply to all other awards that are offered as well. We still have to PAY for them. They aren't FREE.

I know its $10.00 more for foreign stations that are NOT a member of the ARRL...and $5.00 more for using LoTW submissions. What's wrong with doing the same for US stations?

This requirement needs to be changed.

Aug 1st 2013, 16:58

NS5B

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SO, I guess no one but me feels it should NOT be mandatory to be an ARRL member to apply for any award that the ARRL has available? Really? It should be available to ALL hams as I said, regardless of QTH location, or member status.

And even though LoTW is open to ALL operators worldwide, even the US, with NO membership requirements...if you happen to LIVE in the US, and aren't an ARRL member...you can't apply for ANY awards.

I would love to get my DXCC award. I have more than enough qualifying QSO's to get it...but, I'm NOT an ARRL member...so unless I join, its not available to me as a US Amateur Radio Operator.....

Aug 2nd 2013, 14:35

KG5VK

Joined: Apr 4th 1998, 00:00
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Stephen,

No I can not agree with you.
Printing and Shipping alone of DXCC awards is not some minor amount of money. If we want to reap the awards a sponsor offers we should support them.
Membership in the ARRL, is of great value to me well beyond a good quality magazine that comes once a month.
I see on your QRZ.com profile that you have a nice tower and a beam, have you ever considered that without the ARRL your rights to have that tower on your property may not exist ?
Today and actually it has been this way for years, if you do not have a lobbyist on your side the govt. will find away to take away things you enjoy
It is as true with the ARRL as it is with the NRA
If we do not support the League thru some small fee's for the parts of the hobby we love, the ability to enjoy those aspects will be taken away.
I do applaud you for voicing your opinion and I also want to congratulate you for working and getting a great number of countries confirmed.
Have you seen the DXCC certificates, they are not on some cheap paper, spit out of a cheap ink jet printer.
Join the league, process your QSL credits and get your award !

Cheers!
steve
KG5VK
Aug 3rd 2013, 03:47

NS5B

Joined: Jul 3rd 2013, 02:45
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These awards are NOT FREE. Everyone PAYS for them. Example...

Application fee: $15.00
Certificate fee: $12.00
Shipping fee: $2.00 ($4.50 international)
Lapel pin fee: $7.00 (optional...but cool looking)
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Total Fee: $36.00

Everyone can view the entire fee list here...

http://www.arrl.org/files/file/DXCC/Fees/201220Chart207.pdf

My whole point in writing this was the issue of "choice". Charge me a little more if you want for being a non member...but at least give me a choice to do so.

I let my membership lapse a few years ago...and haven't renewed it yet...but I have supported ARRL for quite a while. And I may join again. Maybe when they fix the digital version of QST. Don't have time to read the printed version.

Aug 4th 2013, 14:40

AC4RD

Joined: Apr 4th 1998, 00:00
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Allowing foreign hams to get DXCC awards is both a nice courtesy and a way of increasing participation, in my opinion. But for American hams, it's no different (again, IMO) than having to be a Boy Scout to qualify for a Merit Badge. See my point? You can't get a diploma unless you've enrolled in the school; you have to participate. Again, just my opinion, but it seems entirely reasonable to me. 73! --ken
Aug 7th 2013, 19:21

NS5B

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Yes, it IS a courtesy...and US hams should also be afforded that courtesy as well. We shouldn't be forced to be an ARRL member to get the DXCC certificate. Just charge a little more, and we would STILL be participating. The extra money above what a "member" pays can be added to the revenue pool.

Not sure how that would compare to being a Boy Scout...EVERYONE has to be a member to get a merit badge. No one is exempt, and no alternate method is available to get a badge like it is to get a DXCC award.

And respectfully...that's MY opinion.

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